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Hello all, I had a ground handling incident yesterday and damaged my elevator.  Looks like a month or more for repairs.  :-(
Does anyone know of an ASW-27 that's idle at this time so I could borrow the horizontal stabilizer?
I've checked with Rex and he's pretty sure this can be done without issues.
I live in Tucson, AZ.
Thanks,
5Z
On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 11:56:16 AM UTC-7, 5Z wrote:
> Hello all, I had a ground handling incident yesterday and damaged my elevator. Looks like a month or more for repairs. :-( 
> 
> Does anyone know of an ASW-27 that's idle at this time so I could borrow the horizontal stabilizer? 
> 
> I've checked with Rex and he's pretty sure this can be done without issues. 
> 
> I live in Tucson, AZ. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> 5Z
Check with the insurers to get names of businesses that have purchased wrecks.
Tom
Ramy[_2_]
May 16th 21, 07:22 AM
My old 27 survived the Byron mid air relatively intact. The elevator was in good  shape as far as I could tell.. However I am not sure how well the recovery company handled it and who has it. 
Ramy
On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 8:07:16 PM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 11:56:16 AM UTC-7, 5Z wrote: 
> > Hello all, I had a ground handling incident yesterday and damaged my elevator. Looks like a month or more for repairs. :-( 
> > 
> > Does anyone know of an ASW-27 that's idle at this time so I could borrow the horizontal stabilizer? 
> > 
> > I've checked with Rex and he's pretty sure this can be done without issues. 
> > 
> > I live in Tucson, AZ. 
> > 
> > Thanks, 
> > 
> > 5Z
> Check with the insurers to get names of businesses that have purchased wrecks. 
> 
> Tom
Hank Nixon
May 16th 21, 02:31 PM
On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:56:16 PM UTC-4, 5Z wrote:
> Hello all, I had a ground handling incident yesterday and damaged my elevator. Looks like a month or more for repairs. :-( 
> 
> Does anyone know of an ASW-27 that's idle at this time so I could borrow the horizontal stabilizer? 
> 
> I've checked with Rex and he's pretty sure this can be done without issues. 
> 
> I live in Tucson, AZ. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> 5Z
Which side on elevator? May have.
UH
On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 5:31:06 AM UTC-7, Hank Nixon wrote:
> Which side on elevator? May have. 
It's the left.  I've left a voicemail and emailed you.
Thanks!
Found one!!!
Now I'll get to fly the OLC week tasks at El Tiro next week - May 21-31.
5Z
On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 9:16:56 AM UTC-7, 5Z wrote:
> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 5:31:06 AM UTC-7, Hank Nixon wrote: 
> > Which side on elevator? May have.
> It's the left. I've left a voicemail and emailed you. 
> 
> Thanks!
Ramy[_2_]
May 17th 21, 08:35 AM
Hank also saved me when I was desperate for a 27 canopy frame. Thanks Hank for keeping junk around which may come handy someday! 
Ramy
On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 6:58:55 PM UTC-7, 5Z wrote:
> Found one!!! 
> 
> Now I'll get to fly the OLC week tasks at El Tiro next week - May 21-31. 
> 
> 5Z
> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 9:16:56 AM UTC-7, 5Z wrote: 
> > On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 5:31:06 AM UTC-7, Hank Nixon wrote: 
> > > Which side on elevator? May have. 
> > It's the left. I've left a voicemail and emailed you. 
> > 
> > Thanks!
So I ended up borrowing a horizontal stab from a friend in CA, but unfortunately, it doesn't fit.  So I put his elevator on my stab and that also doesn't fit.  Looks like I would need to remove about 1-2 mm to fit my wider elevator drive.
The repair to my damaged elevator should be complete in 3-4 weeks, so I'll just fly club ships when I get the urge.
5Z
R[_4_]
May 22nd 21, 10:56 PM
This Movie sucks...where's the clicker?
Nicholas Kennedy
May 23rd 21, 01:41 AM
Do you REALLY need a elevator?
I've read here on RAS you can fly a ASW 20 without the elevator hooked up, if you know what your doing. Isn't -the 27 very similar?
Nick
T
Dan Marotta
May 23rd 21, 04:31 PM
Well, Tom's a bit on the crazy side, but I don't think he's an idiot.
Hey Tom, remember that day that Kathy Taylor landed out in the bison 
ranch south of Westcliffe?Â* She borrowed your ASW-20 trailer for the 
retrieve and forgot to hook up her elevator after rigging at the 
airport.Â* Fortunately Joe Berger discovered the oversight when he passed 
by her ship and wiggled the elevator...Â* In case you didn't know, both 
Kathy and George have taken their last thermals; just a few months apart.
Dan 5J
On 5/22/21 5:41 PM, Nicholas Kennedy wrote:
> Do you REALLY need a elevator?
> I've read here on RAS you can fly a ASW 20 without the elevator hooked up, if you know what your doing. Isn't -the 27 very similar?
> Nick
> T
On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 10:31:51 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Well, Tom's a bit on the crazy side, but I don't think he's an idiot. 
> 
> Hey Tom, remember that day that Kathy Taylor landed out in the bison 
> ranch south of Westcliffe? She borrowed your ASW-20 trailer for the 
> retrieve and forgot to hook up her elevator after rigging at the 
> airport. Fortunately Joe Berger discovered the oversight when he passed 
> by her ship and wiggled the elevator... In case you didn't know, both 
> Kathy and George have taken their last thermals; just a few months apart. 
> 
> Dan 5J
> On 5/22/21 5:41 PM, Nicholas Kennedy wrote: 
> > Do you REALLY need a elevator? 
> > I've read here on RAS you can fly a ASW 20 without the elevator hooked up, if you know what your doing. Isn't -the 27 very similar? 
> > Nick 
> > T
I flew a Pik20 with the elevator not properly connected once, popped disconnected very early in airtow -- long story.  But knew about someone who had flown an HP with one half of the V-tail improperly assembled.  He got up under a big cloud and practiced using the flaps as replacement for elevator.  Saved him. So I practiced in the Pik -- and it saved my sorry arse.  I also practiced on my 20 and later the 27.  Turns out to be relatively easy but please do start playing way up high!
Jonathan St. Cloud
May 26th 21, 04:32 PM
On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 9:05:00 PM UTC-7, 5Z wrote:
> So I ended up borrowing a horizontal stab from a friend in CA, but unfortunately, it doesn't fit. So I put his elevator on my stab and that also doesn't fit. Looks like I would need to remove about 1-2 mm to fit my wider elevator drive. 
> 
> The repair to my damaged elevator should be complete in 3-4 weeks, so I'll just fly club ships when I get the urge. 
> 
> 5Z
I know a guy that leased a helicopter to a movie company for two months.  The bird can back with holes drilled in the fire wall for a smoke system!
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